BCU main page Bridge Commander Universe
...welcome to the new world.
 
 FAQFAQ  RanksRanks  RulesRules   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups  Staff SiteStaff Site    RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Enterprise season finale
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bridge Commander Universe Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  

What did you think of the end of Enterprise?
It was great!
10%
 10%  [ 4 ]
It was good.
8%
 8%  [ 3 ]
Um... It was okay.
24%
 24%  [ 9 ]
It sucked!!
35%
 35%  [ 13 ]
Meh, the Galaxy class looked nice.
16%
 16%  [ 6 ]
WTF is Enterprise?
5%
 5%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 37

Author Message

JimmyB76

Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral


Age: 33
Zodiac: Leo
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Posts: 13365
Location: Rhode Island, USA
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 09:26 AM Post subject:

*cougheditfunctioncough*
darn marlboros Razz


_________________
--------------------

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address MSN Messenger

Cube

Astrophysics "FTW"
General
General


Age: 21
Zodiac: Aries
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 4606
Location: Sheffield
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 09:44 AM Post subject:

morgan0210 wrote:
Wow thats a good way to discuss the finale Rolling Eyes


I wanted to say something about enterrpise, but havent seen the finalie yet.

Last episode ive seen was Daedalus

Quote:
Apparently in 2161, there are ships newer then the NX Class, capable of Warp 7. 100 years later, the Constitution Class is capable of a maximum of Warp 7. Just me seeing something wrong here? Winkp


That era uses a different warp scale to TOS. Also, the warp scale between TOS and TNG is different.


_________________

http://djcube.deviantart.com/

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

AoC|Jeedai Joe!

Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral


Age: 26
Zodiac: Sagittarius
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 1558
Location: Don't follow me, I'm lost too...
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 10:10 AM Post subject:

they've never mentioned ENT's warp scale was different....we're led to believe its the same as the TOS scale...

also...umm Kirk's Enterprise did warp 8 on a number of occasions...so wtf are you guys talking about a warp 7 max speed for the Constitution? and after all...Kirk was actually the third captain of the Enterprise so she was an old ship by the time he took command really...

Is it just me or did the ENT-D looks really dark to the point that the model actually looked better in the old show?


_________________
"There will always be those who are strong for evil, the stronger you become the more you are tempted." - Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master - Force Heretic : Refugee

I am 70% addicted to Counterstrike. What about you?

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger

Darkthunder

Admiral
Admiral


Age: 25
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 2003
Location: Sweden
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 11:48 AM Post subject:

The ENT warp scale should be the same as is used throughout TOS. Did anyone forget to watch the mirror universe episodes recently? There it was even said that the Constitution Class can do at most Warp 7.

At the beginning of TOS, you never heard of any ship going higher then Warp 7, it was later in the show when they learnt of the slingshot manuever around the sun for timetravel that they started going faster then Warp 7.

I mean sure, Kirks Enterprise has done like Warp 20 and beyond but that was in the animated series, and under extreme circumstances.


_________________



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

Orion 5

Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral


Age: 21
Zodiac: Sagittarius
Joined: 03 Dec 2004
Posts: 5079

Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 06:05 PM Post subject:

Hey, lets keep all the tech talk in the Star Trek Tech Talk forum Wink


_________________
LOL. Where is everyone?

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger

1701-E

Lieutenant Commander
Lieutenant Commander


Age: 22
Zodiac: Leo
Joined: 10 Oct 2003
Posts: 685
Location: Ontario, Canada
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 06:47 PM Post subject:

I'm just gonna pretend that TATV was just a fanfiction nothing more nothing less.

Terra Prime was a more fitting series finale instead of that... epilogue monstrosity that B&B pulled out of their backsides.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger

Nebula

CA/KM/BCS:TC Mod Team Member
Moderator
Moderator


Age: 22
Zodiac: Gemini
Joined: 04 Oct 2002
Posts: 21131
Location: Michigan
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 06:47 PM Post subject:

lol smart move


_________________
Canon is what people argue exists on ships that don't exist.




Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

Nebula

CA/KM/BCS:TC Mod Team Member
Moderator
Moderator


Age: 22
Zodiac: Gemini
Joined: 04 Oct 2002
Posts: 21131
Location: Michigan
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 10:43 PM Post subject:

sorry for the double post but here is the Ent D used in the last ep.









_________________
Canon is what people argue exists on ships that don't exist.




Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

Darkthunder

Admiral
Admiral


Age: 25
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 2003
Location: Sweden
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 10:58 PM Post subject:

Scotchys Galaxy looks better Wink

I didn't really like the look of the Galaxy in this episode. The escape pods were too pronounced on the hull for example.


_________________



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

RCgothic

Assistant Site and Operations Director
Assistant Administrator
Assistant Administrator


Age: 23
Zodiac: Libra
Joined: 19 Sep 2001
Posts: 5445
Location: Oxford University, England.
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-15-2005 11:11 PM Post subject:

Darkthunder wrote:
Scotchys Galaxy looks better Wink

I didn't really like the look of the Galaxy in this episode. The escape pods were too pronounced on the hull for example.


bugger what you think, that's now canonically how the excape pods ARE.

Also, praise be to the random fluctuations of the space time continuum, that's the last episode of Star Trek B & B EVER Get their hands on.


_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

morgan0210

Commander
Commander


Age: 20
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
Posts: 830
Location: Arizona
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-16-2005 04:57 AM Post subject:

I hope "These Are the Voyage's" is the last episode B & B get their hands on. What brought the episode down for me was the fact that it was about RIKER, and not Archer or any of the other ENT main characters. I hope that if a new Star Trek series is produced, Manny Coto is put in charge, to hell with Berman and Braga.


_________________


Intrepid-class MVAM Ship Pack 1.0

Voyager Sound Pack

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message

AoC|Jeedai Joe!

Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral


Age: 26
Zodiac: Sagittarius
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 1558
Location: Don't follow me, I'm lost too...
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-16-2005 09:34 AM Post subject:

see...that just looks wrong somehow....the model actually looks more real to me...those pictures look better than it did in the episode cause the lighting was TERRIBLE....and they had the saucer impulse lit up....Razz...I just looked hella drak and fake to me....was still neat....and they got the bussard collectors the perfect colour(pinkish like on the old show)....and some running lights were blinking that didn't....lol...i know i'm being picky...i noticed that for some reason right away....

You know what would have been wicked sweet? Had the montage included the Enterprises' NX, 1701, A, B, C, D and E.....that would have made for some tears to the eyes eh?


_________________
"There will always be those who are strong for evil, the stronger you become the more you are tempted." - Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master - Force Heretic : Refugee

I am 70% addicted to Counterstrike. What about you?

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger

Darkthunder

Admiral
Admiral


Age: 25
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 2003
Location: Sweden
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 05-16-2005 12:15 PM Post subject:

RCgothic wrote:
bugger what you think, that's now canonically how the excape pods ARE.

Canon is a very relative term. The final episode of the franchise was written by the crappiest writers in all of Trek history, Brannon Braga & Rick Berman. They showed events that took place during a TNG episode almost 12 years ago. And they don't think we the audience notices how the actors have changed since?

Besides, whatever happened on the NX01 in These Are The Voyages are non-canon since it took place in a holodeck recreation 6 years after Terra Prime. I highly doubt that, that was the way it REALLY happened at that moment in time. I mean, noone's been promoted in 10 years total, Trip became suicidal and obsessed with protecting the captain, Tpol is super emotional, Reed and Travis are basically the same, and after 10 years the school in Brazil STILL wants Hoshi? Razz


_________________



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

CRAZYHID

Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral


Age: 22
Zodiac: Scorpio
Joined: 24 Mar 2002
Posts: 1829

Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 08-05-2005 12:38 PM Post subject: well

I thought i would never like the Enterprise era But i was wrong the characters really did grow on me And i thought season 3 was Very well done, season 4 was ok I didnt like the hole nazi start and i didnt realy see the point of a vulcan/human baby and the ending Im sorry it was just very weak I was actually really horrified watching it, i mean tucker didnt even need to die and archer didnt really cry much it was just like oh well there goes my engineer off to the ceremony, I think it would have been more heroic if one of the cast died during the xindi arc.


_________________
Sovereign
You are a Sovereign-class Explorer, Starfleet's
biggest, badest, playboy posterchild. You
exceed everyone's expectations in every
department. You're the best, and you know it.


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

Nebula

CA/KM/BCS:TC Mod Team Member
Moderator
Moderator


Age: 22
Zodiac: Gemini
Joined: 04 Oct 2002
Posts: 21131
Location: Michigan
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 08-05-2005 03:36 PM Post subject:

You think season 4 was weak... I thought it was the other way around lol

and BIG THREAD RESURRECTION


_________________
Canon is what people argue exists on ships that don't exist.




Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

Zachstar

Zelda 3D Admin
Cadet 3rd Class
Cadet 3rd Class


Age: 21
Zodiac: Cancer
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
Posts: 25
Location: Bossier City
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 05:48 AM Post subject:

I just watched the ending.

Im sure now that if there is even a mention of B&B near trek again it will cause an uproar like no other!!

Season 4 was fantastic!

Till then Confused

I wanted to cry I was so confused

You know why it was done. To go out in a blaze and insure there was no chance of Trek United saving it.

Its my fav series by far tho 3 and 4 really got to me the fact there is no 5 is really heartbreking.

More places to fill now tho Ent B for example that era


_________________



-------------------------------------------
OpenKosmos Space Sim http://openkosmos.sourceforge.net/

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

UPD Equinox

TERTIARY ADJUNCT Y-8
TERTIARY ADJUNCT Y-8


Age: 20
Zodiac: Capricorn
Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 1418
Location: Somewhere you dont want to be...
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 09:18 AM Post subject:

sorry dudes but i just had to use this once. hehehe


_________________
I am commander Jaktel Doft Richards, I am second in command to the general and our ship is the UPD Equinox.



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message

Cube

Astrophysics "FTW"
General
General


Age: 21
Zodiac: Aries
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 4606
Location: Sheffield
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 11:53 AM Post subject:

its OK if its on topic

I think season 1 and 2 were great, and 3 and 4 ware amazing

Wxcept for "these are the voyages". Worst episode of star trek ive ever seen.


_________________

http://djcube.deviantart.com/

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

UPD Equinox

TERTIARY ADJUNCT Y-8
TERTIARY ADJUNCT Y-8


Age: 20
Zodiac: Capricorn
Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 1418
Location: Somewhere you dont want to be...
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 12:18 PM Post subject:

What was with the opening credits man i felt like i was watching a nasa documentary.


_________________
I am commander Jaktel Doft Richards, I am second in command to the general and our ship is the UPD Equinox.



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message

Pegasus

Resident Irishman
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral


Age: 23
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 08 Jun 2002
Posts: 22524
Location: Right here, All Week!
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 02:16 PM Post subject:

That would have been too cheesey and clichéd.

Right so, Here is the problem that I've had with it. The stories were mediocre at best. BUT.... My main beef with it... Naming the Bloody thing "the Enterprise" in the first place. "
Hello 40 years of Trek History... I'm just going to piss al over you now because we want more money"

It was the dumbest move ever... just go against all the history of it all and tell the tale of one of the first earth vessels, seemingly one of the most important in history, which NOBODY had ever heard of before.

Retards. How can anybody justify that and call themselves a fan of Star Trek. Herretics and Charlatans the lot of you.


_________________
Now available at BCC
http://www.teamlynxifer.co.uk/bcn/index.php

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

Trim

Assistant Administrator
Assistant Administrator


Age: 37
Zodiac: Aries
Joined: 29 May 2002
Posts: 16365
Location: Indiana, U.S.A.
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 02:21 PM Post subject:

I'm sensing..........the archive.


_________________
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming, "Wow, what a ride!!!"


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address MSN Messenger

Pegasus

Resident Irishman
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral


Age: 23
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 08 Jun 2002
Posts: 22524
Location: Right here, All Week!
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 02:35 PM Post subject:

Not just yet... I want to see how the "Fans" can explain my post.


_________________
Now available at BCC
http://www.teamlynxifer.co.uk/bcn/index.php

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

Cube

Astrophysics "FTW"
General
General


Age: 21
Zodiac: Aries
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 4606
Location: Sheffield
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 02:58 PM Post subject:

I take it you dont like First Contact, either, as that rewrote the most major part of star trek history....


_________________

http://djcube.deviantart.com/

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

Pegasus

Resident Irishman
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral


Age: 23
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 08 Jun 2002
Posts: 22524
Location: Right here, All Week!
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 04:11 PM Post subject:

No..... that introduced us to the history. Before that, all that was known was that Chocorane moved to Alpha Centauri.


_________________
Now available at BCC
http://www.teamlynxifer.co.uk/bcn/index.php

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

RCgothic

Assistant Site and Operations Director
Assistant Administrator
Assistant Administrator


Age: 23
Zodiac: Libra
Joined: 19 Sep 2001
Posts: 5445
Location: Oxford University, England.
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 04:16 PM Post subject:

B&B tried to force an enterprise shaped hatchet job into a space too small for it.


_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

Cube

Astrophysics "FTW"
General
General


Age: 21
Zodiac: Aries
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 4606
Location: Sheffield
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 06:51 PM Post subject:

Pegasus wrote:
No..... that introduced us to the history. Before that, all that was known was that Chocorane moved to Alpha Centauri.


and that Chocorane made 2 warp flights and made first contact with andorians after the 2nd.


_________________

http://djcube.deviantart.com/

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger

MickJo

Commander
Commander


Age: 20
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 25 May 2004
Posts: 873
Location: Liverpool, U.K.
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 07:09 PM Post subject:

As far as im concerned the Star Trek franchise was killed by hordes of fans complaining about what was canon, if they just stopped moaning about discrepecies in treks historical events we would have another 3 years of Enterprise to go and another series underway like DS:9 & Voyager running a the same time.

there were a lot of events and people too blame: UPN, B&B, advertising. but i see it as the drop from 12,000,000 viewers at 'Broken Bow' to 3,000,000 at TATV that killed Star Trek.

People have the right to watch as they see fit, but ignoring Enteprise brought on Star Trek's demise, in the end it brought us all down.

btw TATV was a complete heap of sh1t that i was appalled by and shouldnt have even made it as a first draft...

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message

Trim

Assistant Administrator
Assistant Administrator


Age: 37
Zodiac: Aries
Joined: 29 May 2002
Posts: 16365
Location: Indiana, U.S.A.
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 07:24 PM Post subject:

More like it was killed because the last series had crap writing and story lines, and generally wasn't very entertaining, at least it wasn't to me anyway. I'll have to admit that there were a few episodes I liked but overall it was a BIG disappointment. Bottom line, if the writing and story lines had been better, the show would still be on. Not to mention this whole "Pre" tos idea for a series crap which didn't help things any. I would rather not have a trek show on than have to suffer thru another season of Enterprise. Rolling Eyes


_________________
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming, "Wow, what a ride!!!"


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address MSN Messenger

Phaser

Star Trek Canon Authority
Admiral
Admiral




Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Posts: 3166
Location: Mourning the loss of my best friend, Curly.
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 09:50 PM Post subject:

Pegasus wrote:
That would have been too cheesey and clichéd.

Right so, Here is the problem that I've had with it. The stories were mediocre at best. BUT.... My main beef with it... Naming the Bloody thing "the Enterprise" in the first place. "
Hello 40 years of Trek History... I'm just going to piss al over you now because we want more money"

It was the dumbest move ever... just go against all the history of it all and tell the tale of one of the first earth vessels, seemingly one of the most important in history, which NOBODY had ever heard of before.

Retards. How can anybody justify that and call themselves a fan of Star Trek. Herretics and Charlatans the lot of you.
clap2
Yes! Well said! Bravo! That's exactly how I feel! Before the show even began the writers made a stupid decision and a major mistake. That was the original seed of Bang head on wall that grew into the forest of hatred that I now have for that show.

MickJo, you have the causes and effects completely mixed up. Star Trek wasn't killed because people stopped watching. People stopped watching because the writers killed Star Trek! Their stories were awful, and they blatantly disregarded virtually all of Star Trek history.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger

Psycho_Nemesis

Resident Psycho...Didnt You Read The Name ?
Admiral
Admiral


Age: 22
Zodiac: Libra
Joined: 07 Apr 2002
Posts: 2565
Location: Sector 001, Earth, Canada, Ontario
Offline

 

 



Reply with quote

Post Posted: 09-11-2005 10:14 PM Post subject:

Cube wrote:
I take it you dont like First Contact, either, as that rewrote the most major part of star trek history....


That never re-wrote a major part of Trek History.

It had been said he made the first warp flight...he did, they met with the Vulcans...they did.

If anything it gave something that made very much sense, what would inspire someone, hell ANYONE to really do this, and the kind of fluke that it was, to show that ya know this was a causality loop, that they future had to go to the past in order to protect the future was done quite well.

As for Enterprise, ya know the idea of pre-tos in my opinion could have worked, first thing would have been called it ANY ship other then Enterprise, then what comes next is you stick with how things were in the first episode, you meet the Klingons yes....but then its not supposed to happen for a long while, but could have done other races, dont have anything like phasers, or torpedos, weaponary in the very first episode was much more believble then what was shown in further Enterprise episodes.

What ended up happening is it seemed like the followed threw with tech way too much which it should not have been, by Season 4 they were using the Transporter flawlessly which it should not have been. Not to say dont use it, sure use it but have MANY more accidents, I mean look at ToS how many times was Scotty trying to fix a mess up that the Transporter caused.

What REALLY killed Enterpise was the whole Xindi crap, fine was it enjoyable ? yes it could be, but the point being was by then they juss decided to completely throw the work every single writer in star trek history work out the window and juss re-write oh yea we were attacked had this war so on and so on.

The only DECENT episodes of Enterprise had to be the Mirror universe, and I hope that any TNG cast member that appeared in that damm series was paid a hell of alot of money to appear in that crap!


_________________






Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic

All times are GMT

Page 2 of 3
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
   Bridge Commander Universe Forum Index -> General Discussion
 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Bridge Commander Universe is a Nightsoft company. All rights reserved.