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time for a real game TES IV: Oblivion
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So what do we all think
wow that looks awesome
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looks pretty gud yah
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meh ive seen better
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whats an elder scroll?
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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 02:35 PM Post subject: time for a real game TES IV: Oblivion

Morrowind is still one of my favorite games of all time, so you can imagine how excited we should all be that in 2006 we have a sequel coming out Grin. check out some of these screens

http://static.filefront.com/images/dwyzerxtme.jpg
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http://www.actiontrip.com/previews/pics/theelderscrollsivoblivion2.jpg
http://www.actiontrip.com/previews/pics/theelderscrollsivoblivion1.jpg
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/obliv/obliv03B.jpg
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/obliv/obliv01B.jpg
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/obliv/obliv05B.jpg
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/obliv/obliv06B.jpg
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/obliv/obliv07B.jpg

comparision

daedroth in morrowind:
http://www.rpgplanet.com/morrowind/travelguide/screenshots/ssdaedroth.jpg

daedroth in oblivion:
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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 02:44 PM Post subject:

TES?? whats TES??

Anyway, they look amazing.on par with the new Zelda.


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 02:48 PM Post subject:

Wooow...

I love the HDR effect! That creates a neat air!
I gotta check it out.

To bad about the seam you see here:
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I think that game is going to bring down my (current) card (9200SE).

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Anyway, they look amazing.on par with the new Zelda.

The Eldar Scrolls, I just looked up Morrowind.Razz


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 04:29 PM Post subject:

I need this game now!!!!

TES 3 was amzing enough, but this...wooooooo!


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 05:13 PM Post subject:

yer i agree mleo, but its cos its set on a continent, unlike morrowind which was an island.

btw note the way all the bricks look individually modeled, they arent but that is what pixel shader 3.0 can do, thats why i rave on about the pixel shader on the 6800 cards, because they will be able to do that whereas the x800s wont.

its basically like bump mapping except depth mapping, gives an awesome effect as u can see

check out that daedroth aswel.. its actually scarey now Razz

and djcube.. on par with new zelda? its two years more advanved lol, its gonna be on ps3 xbox 2 and pc Razz


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 05:20 PM Post subject:

But are they in-game screenshots?


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 06:12 PM Post subject:

yes theyre in game

zelda looks great, this looks god like


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 06:14 PM Post subject:

hela nice, since I'm a big fan of TES i'm really looking forward to playing this one...the new daedroth rocks... Mr. Green


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you're a little late, neb Wink


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 06:29 PM Post subject:

Nice screencaps, altough I've seen games that look this good before (Doom3, HL2, Farcry,etc).
You musn't forget that these caps were made with a top notch video card, probably a Radeon x800 or a GForce 6800 using AA and AF in 1024x768 or higher res.
This game on a more modest system will be hell to play with a decent framerate. Smile


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 06:33 PM Post subject:

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yer i agree mleo, but its cos its set on a continent, unlike morrowind which was an island.

I don't really see the connection between the HDR effect and the location. But that's probably me.Razz

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btw note the way all the bricks look individually modeled, they arent but that is what pixel shader 3.0 can do, thats why i rave on about the pixel shader on the 6800 cards, because they will be able to do that whereas the x800s wont.

Actually, I believe you can get pretty much the same effects with Pixel Shader 1, or even embossed bump mapping.

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its basically like bump mapping except depth mapping, gives an awesome effect as u can see

You mean Z correct bumpmapping? Or Paralax bumpmapping.
Assuming you mean they combined "normal" bumpmapping with mesh deformation.

You can do both with PS 2 I think, maybe not as fast...

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and djcube.. on par with new zelda? its two years more advanved lol, its gonna be on ps3 xbox 2 and pc Razz

You don't happen to have any specs?


Anyway, I think I'm going to buy this game, or atleast download the demo.
Should be fun to see the effects in action, even if it is for research.


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 11:31 PM Post subject:

Hey, that looks pretty sh*t cool Mr. Green

My friends plays N-Gage version of the game all the time.


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Post Posted: 01-23-2005 11:51 PM Post subject:

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I don't really see the connection between the HDR effect and the location. But that's probably me.Razz


i thought u meant that big ridge of rock going though the foreground

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Actually, I believe you can get pretty much the same effects with Pixel Shader 1, or even embossed bump mapping.

You mean Z correct bumpmapping? Or Paralax bumpmapping.
Assuming you mean they combined "normal" bumpmapping with mesh deformation.

You can do both with PS 2 I think, maybe not as fast...


i guess we will find out if we can do it on ps2 stuff, but a ps3 card is gonna find life a lot longer IMO. also bear in mind that unreal 3 uses similar but more advanced tech, and the gf6800 was the first commercial card they could run it on Smile.

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Itís a new piece of technology we have been working on for some time, taking in everything we learned in our past games. Itís pixel-shader heavy. We really got excited by doing the water effects in Morrowind, so now weíre taking that kind of care to every surface - whether it be metal, wood, stone, blood, skin, you name it. We also work in several middleware packages like Havok and Gamebryo. The detail level is amazing, as you can see from the screenshots.

In particular weíre using normal maps (for lighting), diffuse maps (for color), specular maps (for shininess), and parallax maps (for geometry detail). Thereís also specific shaders for skin, hair, and many others. Parallax mapping is a new and exciting technique thatís similar to displacement mapping, but is much friendlier to the video cards.


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You don't happen to have any specs?


fraid not, not specific stuff. but if u look at the possible specs for the ps3 (with nvidia graphics set", and xbox 2 (with microsofts own stuff) u get an idea of the kind of system theyre talking about.

xbox 2 works out at about 3.2ghz processor with 256mb of ram (but its a console so you can expect the performance of a 4ghz processor Razz)

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Anyway, I think I'm going to buy this game, or atleast download the demo. Should be fun to see the effects in action, even if it is for research.


they didnt release a demo for morrowind because its not that kind of game really, its a massive world so its hard to take a demo of it.

if ur interested in the tech side of it run a search for "radiant AI" and also check out the pixel shader usage on the unreal 3 engine.


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Post Posted: 01-24-2005 12:37 PM Post subject:

Those 2 aren't even close!

And is that subsurface scattering I'm seeing?
If that's the case than nobody with a graphics card lower than ati 9600 ist going to play this at 1024x768.Razz

Man, those effects rock!
To bad the grass looks a bit crappy in comparison...
But I do think I'm going to get this game, even though I can't run it yet (I need a job!).

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No, I meant the lower arm and the shoulder of the knight in the image.
That's a pity they didn't do that right the first time...


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This game will be the reason I will get a new computer.

Anyone fancy sharing they're stats from TES 3.


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damn...that looks pretty good


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Post Posted: 01-24-2005 06:25 PM Post subject:

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ps dj..


I was saying that thinking they were not in-game images. This game (TES) looks great.

Game sounds amazing, also. Expecially as the action is real-time (i hate turn-based games, and i as most PC PRGs are turn-based i thaught that this might be, luckily i was wrong)

I may get it.


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Post Posted: 01-24-2005 11:38 PM Post subject:

well we all need to bare in mind that this isnt due out for a year and a bit at least.. your looking at the next generation of gaming. the features im getting excited about are:

> finally someone has put in lighting that mimics the way the human eye reads things, in bright light shadows will be more intense and visa versa.

> even bigger area, with more npcs and more items

> an easier construction set for those of us who enjoy modding Razz

> radiant AI.. ai do what they want when they want just like just like a human. in one test they had an entire town go to dinner in one small tavern. as each person went to collect their food a single NPC was running around stealing the food Razz.

> HORSE RIDING!!

> havok, in an rpg!!! means we can do everything, from watching an arrow realistically vibrate when it hits a surface, to pushing a sheep down a hill Razz.

> better combat system (although we dont know much about it yet)

so yeh, firstly the graphics are only half the amazment, and secondly its still deep in development so we can expect to see such things.

mleo: in 2006 a radeon 9600 will be like a 7500 is now. just like an fx5200 will belike a gf4 440mx is now

dj: get ur hands on morrowind m8, i was such a massive fan of zelda 64 but for me morrowind filled that space Grin


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Yeah, sure, rub it in! Razz


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lol well I am glad I got my X800 pro


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will be fun to see if that old 9800 pixel shader copes Wink


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Post Posted: 01-26-2005 01:02 AM Post subject:

hey at least its better than my low end 9700 pro

and it doesn't have that DAMN hardware problem my old 9700 pro had. It would fail to boot properly when I started my comp so I had to restart every time it failed for it too work. Your making me nuts!


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hey you were the one bragging! Razz


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I think my next card is going to be a NVidia 6800Pro or something, AGP version.

Though I might just need 3 years to buy one...

Do you think my current Motherboard can support one?
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yes, thats a nice board. although in three years time youd be better getting a pcie setup, thats what my plan is neway Razz


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I suppose so...

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aha system specs posted by Bethesda.. looks like my pc will by ok, by alot Grin.

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* 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 1 GB System RAM
* ATI X800 series, Nvidia GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card

Minimum System Requirements:

* Windows XP
* 512MB System RAM
* 2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 128MB Direct3D compatible video card
* and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
* 8x DVD-ROM drive
* 4.6 GB free hard disk space
* DirectX 9.0c (included)
* DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
* Keyboard, Mouse

Supported Video Card Chipsets:

* ATI X1800 series
* ATI X1300 series
* ATI X850 series
* ATI x800 series
* ATI x700 series
* ATI x600 series
* ATI Radeon 9800 series
* ATI Radeon 9700 series
* ATI Radeon 9600 series
* ATI Radeon 9500 series
* ATI Radeon 9000 series
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