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Cardassian Union Kondal class Attack cruiser WIP.....

 
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Post Posted: 01-22-2006 08:40 AM Post subject: Cardassian Union Kondal class Attack cruiser WIP.....

Here is the preliminary work on the Kondal. I moved away from the original curved-forward orientation to something flatter, in order to make it more "cardassian". I think the result works...from all angles except the side angle it looks cardassian.

This ship was designed to fill a role similar to the Defiant, and operates in a similar manner. It is larger than the fed ship, has lower armor, weaponry and menuverability, but is better with shielding and range. Almost all Cardassian ships are designed for deep space operations, and this ship is no exception.

I'm not sure about the size yet, or the specific armament, im still working on it. Right now I wanted to get the basic shape out, and make adjustments. Here is my work sofar.


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Post Posted: 01-22-2006 12:48 PM Post subject:

swell. When ya going to have cardies for me to mod?


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Post Posted: 01-22-2006 03:42 PM Post subject:

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Post Posted: 01-22-2006 06:07 PM Post subject:

^^What he said. Wink

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Post Posted: 01-23-2006 08:58 AM Post subject:

^ gonna jump in the boat here. altough it is a little "flat"


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Post Posted: 01-23-2006 01:28 PM Post subject:

looks Good to me ,,,after all guys its a smaller vessel....


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Post Posted: 01-23-2006 04:35 PM Post subject:

Very nice. One of your best designs, I say!

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Post Posted: 01-23-2006 08:51 PM Post subject:

It is one of his better. But I think they all rock!


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Post Posted: 01-24-2006 03:10 PM Post subject:

I appreciate the input....any comments on what you guys think the size should be? Remember, a little larger then the Defiant, but definitely around that class.


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Post Posted: 01-25-2006 01:54 AM Post subject:

Well, the Defiant is 120 meters in length (read this for a good discussion which comes to that concensus), so I guess a little bigger than that would be about right.

Looking at the model, I'd say nine decks looks good (the Defiant was five decks, after all, so this seems reasonable):

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Post Posted: 01-25-2006 02:25 PM Post subject:

The design is great but the ship looks like it was bigger. I mean: the Defiant is much more compact and gives me the impression of being faster and more agile, here you have a lot of "wasted" space between nacelles and hull.
Just my thought, great work btw. Thumbs Up

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Post Posted: 01-25-2006 03:50 PM Post subject:

Tho I wasn' fond of your initial modelling skills, I'm happy to stand corrected now.
Mr. Raven Night, this model looks amazing! what's the polycount on it, btw?


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Post Posted: 01-27-2006 09:08 AM Post subject:

Looks very good and quite frankly looking over canon designs I think you'll find that cardy ships have some pretty flat sections. Aside from that this design fits pretty well although the only put of for me is the front looks a bit to wide for my liking. Still it'll be good to see some of these ships in game at some point.

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Post Posted: 01-27-2006 04:10 PM Post subject:

I like it, I agree it looks a little too flat, but I say it fits in well Smile


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Post Posted: 01-27-2006 04:41 PM Post subject:

You guys might be right about the flatness....I dont want to build up the top, but I can build the bottom. It needs more on the bottom anyway...trying to stay within 2500 polys.

Thanks for the compliments on my modeling improvements....I still have a long way to go

2303 polys at present.

The wasted space is actually on purpose...Cardassians are not known for efficiency in design, at least how I see the designs. The ship has lots of storage area for fuel and supplies, as all Cardassian ships are designed for deep space operations (or almost all I should say, again, my contention).


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Post Posted: 01-31-2006 03:06 PM Post subject:

IMHO
I think it needs a bridge. Nothing big, just a little structure
on the "spine" towards the bow. Same spot as in the galor
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Looks good tho. What's the HP going to be like?


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Post Posted: 01-31-2006 09:46 PM Post subject:

Well, this is the bridge.......I know, its small and non-wedge shaped like other Cardassian ships, but I figured that since this is a fast attack cruiser (like the Defiant) it should have a more compact flush bridge assembly.


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Post Posted: 01-31-2006 09:59 PM Post subject:

cool. nice work

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Post Posted: 02-02-2006 03:22 PM Post subject:

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Well, this is the bridge.......I know, its small and non-wedge shaped like other Cardassian ships, but I figured that since this is a fast attack cruiser (like the Defiant) it should have a more compact flush bridge assembly.


Actually, the more I look at this design, the more I like it. That structure in the center of the spine also might make a nice bridge spot; I think that's where it is on the Hideki class.. Anyway, if this is going to be the cardy asnwer to the Defiant, I think it should have something special in the HP. Some new/stolen technology (cloak or burst-fire torpedoes, new torpedo type, etc.) *whatever* something to distinguish it from the other designs. I'm going to throw out 2 ideas here, which might make it easier to place weapons systems if folks want them -

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The blue is the the weapon arc; to make it work, those center
fins will need to be raised up a level/or angled upwards. Still
might have stuff firing through the model though so,
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extend that part of the spine forward a bit (red part). Cuz i think it'll look funny if you mount the torpedoes/pulse weapons on the leading edge of the bow. Also, I think the side profile might look better with some vertical development near the stern... But what do I know 'Smile Either way, it looks good.


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Post Posted: 03-17-2006 08:13 PM Post subject:

When have we seen a ship like this?

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Post Posted: 03-17-2006 09:25 PM Post subject:

Looks good, really "sharp"


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Post Posted: 03-17-2006 11:59 PM Post subject:

Hehe, looks like a No-Frills Saber class. Get rid of all the silly hull volume and warp nacelles, and bam! There you go. Razz
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Post Posted: 03-18-2006 12:59 AM Post subject:

kinda does.


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Post Posted: 03-18-2006 08:12 PM Post subject:

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Post Posted: 03-21-2006 07:49 AM Post subject:

Very very snazy! And your modelling talent certainly has improved dramatically! Nice work there.

Just one quibble... Would the bridge on a figher class ship be right at the front? Remember Worf wanted to ram the defiant into the borg cube... now albeit Worf would have liked to die honourably some others might want a fighting chance to come out of it alive. So wouldnt the bridge on that kind of ship be a bit further back?


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Post Posted: 03-21-2006 11:23 AM Post subject:

Well, all cardies have the bridge facing hyper-forward, so I felt I should do the same here.


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