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Size: ----[since I scaled the Defiant to fit the shuttlebay, comparing with the Excalibur it looks near 1.2 times the size of it, so that will be the scale until further notice. You were right Adonis, that was a LOT!]----
Era: ~ 30 years after Nemesis. NCC-150000 range.

Firepower (Galaxy = 1): 5.0
Armament:
-Three phasers on the saucer (1 top, 1 middle, 1 bottom) covering 270°. One phaser right below the aft top shuttlebay, covering 90° upwards and 160° sidewards. Two phasers on the pylons, facing down.
-Lateral pulse cannons on the main hull firing pulse phaser shots (8 total). Lateral torpedo launchers on the saucer firing phase quantum torpedoes, transphasic torpedoes, and ion torpedoes (10 total). Standard TypeIX photon launchers on the main hull, facing forward and backward (6 total)

Carriable craft: Danube MK II, Type XI shuttle, Peregrine, Sovereign yatch, Defiant (launched by MVAM), Delta Flyer.

Here are the different versions:
3rd nacelle:


3rd nacelle - mid stripe variant:


two nacelles:


two nacelles - variant:


pod (shape to be defined):


pod - nacelle variant:

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interesting. I am fasinated into what this may evolve into

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well, I'll wait to comment untill there is moe to see than a big butt.

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Her size is an overkill if ya ask me...4km's is a LOT!

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starforce2 wrote:

well, I'll wait to comment untill there is more to see than a big butt.

Li'l update. Size comparison with a Danube:



but, as Italians say: Piano, piano va lon tano (Slow, slow is the Italian way) This is going to take a while. And I want to model it carefully.

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Her size is an overkill if ya ask me...4km's is a LOT!

yah, just felt like Star Wars's ships are waaay bigger than Star Trek's ships, so why not?.

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it's his Mod\ship, Hey he can size it as big or small, whatever he cooses

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tiqhud wrote:

it's his Mod\ship, Hey he can size it as big or small, whatever he cooses

It's founded in something, tho.
WWII's B-17 and B-29 heavy bombers (AKA "Flying Fortress") This ship is heavy, yes. but will struggle against destroyers or attack ships if not escorted, although the ability of carrying fighters ballance the thing.

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ah, massive, most power to engines, little weapons, not designed for fighting, but carrying, like the Aircraft Carriers of today, most of her firepower is in her aircraft, not in onboard weapons

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Imperial_Destroyer wrote:

ah, massive, most power to engines, little weapons, not designed for fighting, but carrying, like the Aircraft Carriers of today, most of her firepower is in her aircraft, not in onboard weapons

yes, more or less.
I want to add some lateral pulse cannons like 19th century frigates, several tractor beams spread along the ship, wide-arc galaxy-style phasers and frontal and aft quantum turrets, most oriented laterally than vertically, as a real armored turret should be.
It's not even modelled yet, and I'm already looking forward to see her in-game!

EDIT: I'm gonna edit updates from this post forward, so old scrennies will be deleted after a while.

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I'll have to ask the author of the KM Defiant for the plugin. Anyone knows who is he?



Update before I leave for weekend.
Beginning of the pie-shaped saucer hull

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looking good!

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umm, i hope she ain't gonna be a 3 nacell craft, it looks better imo with two

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I agree with Imperial on the two nacelle design. Humbly, I think that the third nacelle has been used to death. I really like the idea of this design and it is really mammoth as a carrier should be. The Defiant-class launch bay is a very nice touch as well! I will enjoy following the progress.

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Indeed. Nice ship but loose the third nacelle... In my opinion 3rd nacelles have never... and i mean NEVER looked good. Much like a man in a clown suit trying to break dance after he's snorted a few lines of coke and drunk half a keg of beer.

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UPD Equinox wrote:

Indeed. Nice ship but loose the third nacelle... In my opinion 3rd nacelles have never... and i mean NEVER looked good. Much like a man in a clown suit trying to break dance after he's snorted a few lines of coke and drunk half a keg of beer.

Agreed lose the third nacelle

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Very nice, she looks like she's gonna be a BIG Ship!!. Don't like thickness of the saucer, but I really like the nacelles. Good work thus far, I'll be keeping an eye on this one!!

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I would leave the third nacelle out of the design.

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@3rd nacelle:

Well, I decided to put a 3rd nacelle since I saw the lateral nacelles won't cover the ship at all, due to the stripes facing outwards, and not in or upwards. The third nacelle would stabilize the warp field.
Although, since that point is disliked by many of you, I'll make the two options, the three-nacelled and a two-nacelled version with new warp stripes, and post a poll once it's done.

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change the third nacelle to an utility pod or a warp enhancer or a combination of both, that'd look much better

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Nice point there Blaxxer! the pod can be a torpedo laucher.

what's that "warp enhancer"? sort of the premonition's time nacelle?

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Captain Elgy wrote:

Don't like thickness of the saucer, but I really like the nacelles

i supposed they had to put the crew quarters somewhere, with those suttlebays eating most of the space.

however, I made a deck layout yesterday and it's near 80 decks high!

Thanks for the feedback to all!!

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dude, if you are worried about the grills, look at the refit connie, they didn't have any glow going up, just sideways and it works

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Update after a busy weekend lol
making an early layout of weaponry: red bands are phaser stripes



FAQ:
Q:Why is it in wireframe?
A:Because I don't want to show the painting 'till finished

Q:Why a middle phaser?
A:Since it will have low speed, I felt like using two wide-angle phasers facing up and down, and a single flat phaser in the middle maybe with a ~20°-wide arc up and down

Q:Release date?
A:late November, not before.

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If it's going to be that huge, it better have very large detailed textures so that it looks reasonably good next to normal ships. I think that the ship is way too big - it might be better to make a smaller ship with an enlarged saucer that has extra shuttle bays or something like that - you could even have one large bay on top or bottom of the saucer that the Defiant can dock to, or even have a spoiler that a Defiant-class could dock with.

I like multi-nacelled ships a lot, but the positioning of the dorsal nacelle doesn't look too good - it's always better when extra nacelles are mounted with pylons to the same region that the regular port and star nacelles are mounted to.

Just my opinions - the modelling looks really good.

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CaptainRussell wrote:

If it's going to be that huge, it better have very large detailed textures so that it looks reasonably good next to normal ships. I think that the ship is way too big - it might be better to make a smaller ship with an enlarged saucer that has extra shuttle bays or something like that - you could even have one large bay on top or bottom of the saucer that the Defiant can dock to, or even have a spoiler that a Defiant-class could dock with

Oh, man! It's CR here! I'm honored!

well, it has a bottom shuttlebay for the Defiant. I could make the plugins just last night and it works!! this is getting better every time.
I was planning to release a whole MVAM pack, but will take longer because of the plugins and the scripting work, so maybe just one ship will have the MVAM defiant.
it's very funny to see the ship being attacked and launching the shuttles,

Thanks for the feedback, guys.
I'll post the new screenies here this afternoon. (well, maybe night for you )

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Great work. I would say the two nacelle one is better.

Also, 4km is not too big....borg ships for instance. And the Infinity, which is also a carrier.....

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Thanks a lot, Raven!!

Does anyone know who made the KM Defiant? for the legals, you know....

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looks great! would love to destroy a couple of starbase with this 1!

good work

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you bet

I splitted a Hutet with this baby, both teams with escorts. But can't stand against an Excalibur.
It breaks a Galaxy in two, literally, in one minute if handled correctly.
It's better when you use manual fire and let Felix do the manouvers, makes the ship faster, dunno why.