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wok · Major Age: 23 Zodiac: Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 721

Q: Has anyone actually paid for winrar?

(A: No)

Pegasus · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 03:08 PM

You do realise tht the trial version doesn't lock after the 30 days... it just comes up saying would you like to register.... No...... then you can jutst keep using it.

WaterTiger · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 05:56 PM

Raven, perhaps you could more clearly define YOUR definition of Warez. I think that is the issue.

'One man's junk is another man's treasure.'

Is Ad-Aware? Is .rar beta?

Define it, please.

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WaterTiger

WaterTiger · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 07:06 PM

Raven,

I think you are issuing an order, but asking for opinion ... Bad policy, IMHO.

Also, I believe YOU need to clearly define what warez IS to YOU.

Frankly, Raven, if it is there, and downloadable ... with the prices these corporate geeks are asking, I say hell with 'em.

Not trying to be disrespectful ... Thanks for letting me offer an opinion.

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WaterTiger

**Sim Rex** · Moderator Age: 26 Zodiac: Joined: 11 Apr 2002 Posts: 1714

jwattsjr · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 08:29 PM

WaterTiger · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 08:42 PM

**Armondikov** · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 08:53 PM

Its also a well big "SCREW YOU" to the ball-busting programmers that live in front of computers clicking away for very little money. If you want to specifically screw the execs then you steal the software and send $10 to all the program staff.

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**Sim Rex** · Moderator Age: 26 Zodiac: Joined: 11 Apr 2002 Posts: 1714

wok · Major Age: 23 Zodiac: Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 721

Pegasus, Winrar ain't free. It says-

"Please note that Winrar is shareware.
After a 40 day trial period you must either
register it or remove it from your
computer."

and

When you purchase WinRAR/RAR from any of the sites around the world, you are sent a personalized key file that you copy on your computer that tells WinRAR/RAR you are the legal owner of that software and registers it to you. If you purchase a copy, and didn't receive a key, contact the site you purchased it from, they can resend it.

WinRAR/RAR products are not free! They are shareware, which means you can try the software at no charge for 40 days, and purchase it then if you choose to keep it.

Heh.

WaterTiger · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 09:24 PM

Thanks, Rex ... I have some strong views on this and saw the warnings go flying around ... As a site mod and admin, I also see the need to protect a company from liability. Hell, its the forum and Nightsoft that is held liable if traficked here with links to Warez.

I think Raven is doing the right thing for the COMPANY.

But, can the companies making these ridiculously-priced programs act like GriSoft and .rar and others and do the right thing? Or will they continue to put the programmers and the code slaves in the middle?

It's corporate cuthroat, I'm afraid ... They did it, now we have to clean up the mess?

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WaterTiger

USSCyclops · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 09:38 PM

well i have products like psp8.0 that i havent bought i havent gotten a cracked version or nuttin its just the trial but i have a question if i can "prolong my trial" is that illeagal and i m not doi ng anything to the software or its source code just the clean install of the trial anywayz i have a question are keygens also like warze?

jwattsjr · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 09:48 PM

WaterTiger · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 09:50 PM

USSCyclops · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 10:07 PM

yea they should same with win zip o and my psp never gose over the trial time so technicly im not using it past the expiration datae Question

**Raven Night** · **Posted**: 08-10-2004 10:40 PM

Hmmm.

Ok, this has become a philisophical debate. Though I may have opinions on the right or wrong of software prices, I will not share them here. That would not be appropriate, unless those companies are given the right to slander our prices as well.

What I will say is that any modification that allows you to use the software past the trial date is warez, period. Once the trial ends you either pay for the software or stop using it. That is the intention of a trial.

Now, I am not a priest. If you choose to break the law, that is on you. It is your choice. Just don't share it with my patrons on my board. I would, of course, recommend against it, but it is your choice to take the chance if you so wish.

TeraByte · **Posted**: 08-11-2004 02:36 AM

USSCyclops · **Posted**: 08-11-2004 09:26 PM

yea well currently i have 3ds max the trial version and im not lookin for it to end lol wel itsnot a modification i know u dont want me to post it here so can i ask u ina pm?

Pegasus · **Posted**: 08-11-2004 09:30 PM

Matsch-Klon · **Posted**: 08-11-2004 10:03 PM

But does the fact that you don't have to download a key to overcome the 40 days limit it right?

**Raven Night** · **Posted**: 08-12-2004 12:10 AM

Ok, if the EULA does not require you to register after the period........IE, the author says something like "Shareware is not free. Though the program continues to work after the trial period, you are expected to pay for the software if you choose to use it. Paying for it will allow us to make better versions in the future and to continue to support the product.......", or something along those lines, then no, you are not LEGALLY obligated to pay for it.

Best thing I can say is read the EULA. That will answer all of your questions.

Pegasus · **Posted**: 08-12-2004 12:14 AM

Good call.

**DamoclesX** · **Posted**: 08-13-2004 11:29 AM

if you dont know why warez is wrong.. why are you even allowed to live, seriously, wtf, ther eshouldnt even be a discussion about this

if you steal from me, you better be able to run faster then a bullet, warez fools should be shot like the usless rabit dogs they area

if you cant deal with it, dont use it, period

(Eternal Visitor) · Lieutenant Age: 22 Zodiac: Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 480

I have a question about all of this.

what if someone is using a time limited shareware program "past" its expire date by setting his computer clock back so that the program thinks it's not time to expire yet?

(I am not doing this, I'm just asking. please don't hurt me.)

Matsch-Klon · **Posted**: 08-13-2004 04:17 PM

I bet that usually doesn't help. But formatting your HD does. Smile

GhostOfThePast · Ensign Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 108

Funny part is 90% of the people here who say they don't use warez are f**kin bold faced liars. They just don't want to admit it.

Matsch-Klon · **Posted**: 08-13-2004 09:28 PM

What about you?

USSCyclops · **Posted**: 08-13-2004 10:00 PM

jwattsjr · **Posted**: 08-13-2004 10:30 PM

If the program stops working because the eval period is over, and someone takes steps to bypass that limitation witout registering the software, then I'd call that warez. A program that stops working after X amount of days is an obvious indication that it's not ok to keep using it after that amount of time.