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First of all I want to thank all modders and scripters of the Bc community for keeping the game alive and enhancing the game every day.

Now I'm very proud to announce that work on my first mod for BC based on Cakuzma's drydock system has begun.

Basically this mod will make the docking-undocking procedure more realistic.
Each station will have lots of different docking point and each will have it's own purpose like repair and reload or just to stop your ship and leave it with a shuttle. The possibility of docking will now depend of what ship you fly and where you want to dock. Also lots of sounds and different characters greeting you at the different stations will be included to make this mod more cannon.
This mod is meant for every FedStarbase and FedStation.

Progress:
on Hold, in progress, done.

Starbase 329:
Harpoints (almost done)
different port functions
Starbaseinfo
Docking
Undocking
Character
EmergencyAbort (almost done)
Sounds
DeepSpace 9:
Hardpoints (almost done)
different port functions
EmergencyAbort
Docking
Undocking
Characters (could realy use a Sisko model)
Sounds
Starbaseinfo
FedStarbase:
Harpoints
different port functions
Docking
Undocking
Characters
Sounds
EmergencyAbort
Starbaseinfo
FedTacbase:
Harpoints
different port functions
Docking
Undocking
Characters
Sounds
EmergencyAbort
Starbaseinfo
WarBase:
Hardpoints
different port Functions
Docking
Undocking
Characters
Sounds
EmergencyAbort
Starbaseinfo
DryDock:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undocking
Sounds
Character
DryDock function
EmergencyAbort
DryDockinfo
TradingStation:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undocking
Sounds
Character
Function
EmergencyAbort
Starbaseinfo
StarTrekXYard:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undocking
EmergencyAbort
Character
Sounds
YardFunction
YardInfo
FedOutpost:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undocking
EmergencyAbort
Character
Sounds
Function
OutpostInfo
ScienceStation:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undcoking
Function
Sounds
Character
Starbaseinfo
Armagosa:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undocking
Function
Sounds
Character
EmergencyAbort
Baseinfo
Starbase220:
Hardpoints
Functions
Sounds
Character
Docking
Undocking
EmergencyAbort
Starbaseinfo
Starbase1:
Hardpoints
Docking
Undocking
Functions
CHaracter
EmergencyAbort
Sounds
Starbaseinfo

What I realy could use:
Model of Starbase 329 with a real hangar to fly in (see pic 4 )
A better CardStarbasebridgebackround then the stock one
Computersounds witch have to do with docking

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Wow looks like your doing pretty good Keep it up

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Quote:

Wow looks like your doing pretty good :)Keep it up

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Treleth wrote:

Quote: Wow looks like your doing pretty good Keep it up

Well what about it

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this looks promising!

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yah

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Man, this sounds great! It's full of innovative ideas!

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ModderMan wrote:

Treleth wrote: Quote: Wow looks like your doing pretty good Keep it up Well what about it

I was going to say the same thing, so I decided to jsut copy you.

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Ah i see

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good job dude

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It sounds promissing, but that's a lot of Yellow and Red on that list.

Is it the case that once you've got a function working for one base it's very easy to duplicate for another?

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AEm no it isn't. Because once you've docked a menu will come up including the character where you can decide what you want to do. Since every docking port on each station has it's owne puspose I have to create a character for every dockingport and a seperate AI for every docking and undocking and abort equences. This way it's pssible to allow it that one docking port allows for example only repair and another allows only reload ect. . Also not every station and Starbases support the same functions.
Pics follow soon.

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BTW, you can't dock with every base, for example, a ship the size of a galaxy can't dock at a starbase 329-like station, its too large. That's why, in "Measure of a Man [tng]" they transported over. In a script, can't you put something like Glaxaxyclass-TypeDockedWith329, and then make the dock script search for that? then you would do this for each base.

e.g.
\scripts\custom\dockingscripts\docklist.py

Starnase 329
defiant
bugship
shuttle
etc....

DeepSpaceNine
Galaxy
Nebula
Sovereign
Akira
etc...

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or just

Code:

get the radius of the model if this is smaller than the hanger door then dock otherwise no luck haha go get your torps somwhere else :P

That would save alot alot of coding

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I think you mean diameter, lost_jedi.

Even if one can't physically dock, one should be able to reload and repair (perhaps repair to a lesser extent than if one was able to physically dock), since shuttles and transporters exist.

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Phaser wrote:

I think you mean diameter, lost_jedi. Even if one can't physically dock, one should be able to reload and repair (perhaps repair to a lesser extent than if one was able to physically dock), since shuttles and transporters exist.

yes...diameter... its been a long day

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That's the reason why I wanted a remade model of Strabase 329. Collision between STarbase and the player ship will be enabled so if you want to enter the hangar with a galaxy class vessel...boom this way only ceratain ships will be allowed to reload. Otherwise you can just dock outside the starbase and repair some subsysystems. Same for DS9. Outer docking RIng just for ships like Defiant or bird of pray maybe also akira flying backwards if someone can tell me how to to change the value of setspeed. Trying to dock with al larger vessel won't bring up a menu but an explosion.

Edit: But I'm still experimenting with the docking scripts about forbidding docking for larger and smaller vessels.

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Dero wrote:

Cakuzma's drydock system

im pretty sure that was madons system, cakuzma just took it from one of madons alphas for powerdown... or was that something else?

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I don't know. The readme didn't mention anything like that.

Edit: Because of your question I sent an Email to Madon asking if there's the possibility that you're right. Until I recive an answer the project is canceled.

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I like where this is going, its a rather neat idea, Totaly Games had so much potential with this game and the question begs why they didnt make it what it could be

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what you have to remember is that totally games were on a budget and had a time constraint, the modders have had four or five years to perfect on totally games design

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Well I just came up with an idea that might help. Make it so that when you dock ( Specificly with DS9) that you go to a certain docking place depending on the size of ship or somthing

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That's the plan!

But until madon finished his powerdownmod the project will be on hold.

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For anyone who wants to work on hardpoints in the meantime, the script currently looks for the exact same setup as on Starbase 12. No modification to the system files is needed, as the script will let you dock with any ship/station with the required hardpoint info.

(Theoretically allows you to set up an HP to fly a shuttle into a hanger if you want)

I'm not going to go into the reasons that work on this had to be suspended, as I don't want to drag up stuff from the past, but there will be another official public beta of the Power Down mod towards the end of December with some new additions.

Please see the Power Down thread for more info on the next release of that.

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I hope this still will be done as i definatly look forward to it.

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Plesase don't bump, that means resurrecting the thread, when Dero ahs soemthing to add, he'll add it, just be patient.

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Currently this project is cancelled because of that, unkonwn to me when I started this, the scripts I also used where ripped out of Madons PowerDown mod.
And since Madon continous work on his mod there is currently no need for this one here.
Basically, you could just do what madon said; equip your stations with hardpoints for dockking and undocking. When I worked with the old version I still had to rename the waypoint names in the script itself. Hope he'll fix that.

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Mark wrote:

Dero wrote: Cakuzma's drydock system im pretty sure that was madons system, cakuzma just took it from one of madons alphas for powerdown... or was that something else?

ya that was mistake of mine back then so to Dero suggest that you try to contact Maddon as it was his codeing
I did appoligaze for that incident but you should ask him for permission

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Mark wrote:

Dero wrote: Cakuzma's drydock system im pretty sure that was madons system, cakuzma just took it from one of madons alphas for powerdown... or was that something else?

ya that was mistake of mine back then so to Dero suggest that you try to contact Maddon as it was his codeing
I did appoligaze for that incident but you should ask him for permission

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