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Well...?
EDIT: O yeah plz give a reason why it is the best
I think PS2 because it has all the games i want and the best controllers

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why is the in BC general? this has nothing to do with BC

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oww sh*t could a leader ( Can't find the right word right now) move it to General Discousion?

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PS2 Simply cause it has the best games

Xbox does have some great games but nothin that doesnt eventually come to PC

Gamecube well Nntendo is juss stuck with these crappy kiddie like games, sorry but nothing thats made me wanna buy an Xbox

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SlimyStrike wrote: leader moderators or administrators.

yeah didn't know it for a sec

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I say the XBOX it has the best controllers and its system completly owns PS2 in many areas oh and can I say XBOX Live.....

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nebula wrote:

I say the XBOX it has the best controllers and its system completly owns PS2 in many areas oh and can I say XBOX Live.....

But for XBOX Live you need to pay
I you want online with ps2 you don't if you got a certain internet connection

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the functionality for the Xbox isn't limited either

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The P *Dramatic pause* C *Another dramatic pause* OWNS ALL.

Why? You don't have to put up with with years of archaic technology.

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heh yah I know the PC owns all but we were talking consoles here

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I allready thought so that if i added PC everybody would go for it

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Xbox by far. Mainly due to its good controllers, games like Halo 2, and also the specs it has over the ps2 and Cube

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Do note that PS2 is build almost 5 years ago so the XBOX Technology is far more advanced

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true thats what makes it better and I don't care if the PS2 has more games heck it can even play ps1 games but soooo

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Meh, IMO they all suck. PC Gaming would have to be my personal favorite.

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again were NOT talking about pc's here....

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nebula wrote:

again were NOT talking about pc's here....

Y'know, technically the XBox is just a glorified PC anyway... And a pretty outdated and slow one by modern gamer rig standards, too

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heh you got me there ..... -.- BUT! the Xbox is still leader of the pack console wise

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I generally agree with trim in part but the consoles have redeeming features that pcs dont have.

PS2 is overall best not because of its graphical capability but because of the huge selection of games and some of the best stuff out there such as Ace Combat 5, Front Mission 4, Gran Turismo 4, MGS 3 Final Fantasy etc

I dont rate X-BOX mainly because anything worth playing on it eventually comes to PC which i prefer due to the better graphical ability of the PC and greater multiplayer options.

Now the Gamecube is a TRUE console mainly because all it does is play games and NOTHING else which is what a console should do even though half of its catalogue is targeted at younger gamers but there are quality titles such as MGS:Twin Snakes, Resident Evil 0 and 1, Skys of Arcadia, FF Crystal Chronicles.

Ultimately i prefer to use PC because it can do so much more with games than consoles can and provides the ability to greatly expand games unlike consoles.

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CaptAidy1701 I could agreee with what you said.

XBox's amazing must have games like Halo have evntually come to PC, and when Halo did come to PC, it was much better then when it was on Xbox. I honestly must say everyone says "oh but the Xbox is newer bulid and its more advanced since the PS2 is old" well true, but look at the games that have been released for all 3 consoles, when it happens generally the praphics are all the same, but there are times when graphics on a certin console are not the same.

As well PS2 does come out with more of the games that you go WOW. like honestly without bringing up Halo, what exclusive Xbox games are there that are just like WOOOOOW. I honestly cant think of any, while PS2 there are plenty such as Ace Combat 5, GTA SA, Gran Turismo 4, Killzone. Thats just what I can think of off the top of my head.

Also yes PC is the best gaming machine, go PC!

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i can't belive anyone even owns the POS2....IT SUCKS, i won't touch it with a ten foot grenade, the thing has so many deisgn flaws it ain't even funny, the XBOX was engineered VERY well, and the gamecube is the best, i don't care about the huge amount of games for the POS2, it has all those due to the already noted TIME, its been out, if these systems had been put out during the same time, i would still NOT agree with you, the POS and POS 2 just plain STINK, and so will the stupid POSP, i can't believe they went with mini disks.....ON A HANDHELD, they actaully put a loading time on a HANDHELD sys, what a bunch of dips,.......another testiment to the ignorance of Sony on gaming sys, they can do some cool sound equip, but they can't do squat on their own, they even have to copy other ppl in the gaming area becuase they can't come up with anything of their own.......

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i can't belive anyone even owns the POS2....IT SUCKS, i won't touch it with a ten foot grenade, the thing has so many deisgn flaws it ain't even funny, the XBOX was engineered VERY well, and the gamecube is the best, i don't care about the huge amount of games for the POS2, it has all those due to the already noted TIME, its been out, if these systems had been put out during the same time, i would still NOT agree with you, the POS and POS 2 just plain STINK, and so will the stupid POSP, i can't believe they went with mini disks.....ON A HANDHELD, they actaully put a loading time on a HANDHELD sys, what a bunch of dips,.......another testiment to the ignorance of Sony on gaming sys, they can do some cool sound equip, but they can't do squat on their own, they even have to copy other ppl in the gaming area becuase they can't come up with anything of their own.......

Wow... That's an impressive amount of bias and hatred against poor old Sony and their Playstation brand there... But surely 100 million PS owners and 80 million PS2 owners can't all be wrong?

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Game Cube is the best ? for what honestly ?

I cant think of 1 good game on a game cube and thats Metriod Prime, any others would be for my 7 yearold cousin.

I like PS2 NOT because it has oh so many games, because yes its been out longer, but because of the varitey of excellent games! I'm mean if it comes out to Xbox it''ll be on PC example Halo.

PS2 has MANY excellent games that have come out recently or will be coming in the near future.

Also seriously I expect Nintendo to go the way of Sega soon, because Nintendo is juss too stupid with there stuff now, Nintendo DS stupidest handheld EVER, and the fact that they keep releasing a new handheld doesnt help either, the PSP is just so much better on the graphics people will be much more inclined to purcshe a PSP then a gameboy once the PSP is released.

Also what do you mean they have to copy other people in the gaming bussiness ?

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Also seriously I expect Nintendo to go the way of Sega soon, because Nintendo is juss too stupid with there stuff now, Nintendo DS stupidest handheld EVER, and the fact that they keep releasing a new handheld doesnt help either, the PSP is just so much better on the graphics people will be much more inclined to purcshe a PSP then a gameboy once the PSP is released.

And here we have some hatred and bias going towards Nintendo, in defense of Sony.

But how is the Nintendo DS the "stupidest handheld ever"?

Other questions to consider:

-Do you realise the PSP's battery life is very short, and load times are long? Not a good combination.
-Is there not more to gaming than just graphics?

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And here we have some hatred and bias going towards Nintendo, in defense of Sony.

Its not hatred towards Nintendo I grew up with Nintendo, its just I honestly see them going down only because they have no games geared towards those of an older age who can afford to buy games rather then kids who get mommy & daddy too.

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But how is the Nintendo DS the "stupidest handheld ever"?

I think the DS is the stupidest handheld only because 2 screens are not needed, I've seen games on it and what it becomes is one screen is the game while the other is a map, do we really need that ?

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Other questions to consider: -Do you realise the PSP's battery life is very short, and load times are long? Not a good combination. -Is there not more to gaming than just graphics?

Yes I do know that, but so can be my mp3 player, or my sony Clie's battery life.

Yes there is more to graphics, there is game play as well, but tell me would if you have the ablity to use better graphics dont you ? an example would be 2 mods for BC, one is of lesser graphics but use the same HP, you can run both do you not pic the one with better graphics.

And to add one more thing a good 50% of the new released games for Advanced happen to be older released polished off SNES games.

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Its not hatred towards Nintendo I grew up with Nintendo, its just I honestly see them going down only because they have no games geared towards those of an older age who can afford to buy games rather then kids who get mommy & daddy too.

I think the wifi and fun wifi programs you get with it will possibly pull in a slightly older crowd, but yes, I do agree that Nintendo's image is a little tarnished at the moment because everyone saw the Gamecube as kiddy. Still, the GBA SP has been selling *very* well!

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I think the DS is the stupidest handheld only because 2 screens are not needed, I've seen games on it and what it becomes is one screen is the game while the other is a map, do we really need that ?

I can see the extra screen becoming almost like the scroll wheel on the mouse over time - something that you didn't even realise you wanted until you had it, and then you wouldn't want to give it up.. But maybe that's just me. I think that at the moment, we really haven't seen them use the dual screen thing to its full advantage, because we're only in the first wave of development for the system. And yes, most games are just sticking a map in that screen. But some aren't - I direct you towards Spiderman 2 by Vicarious Visions... They are using the touch screen to control Spiderman's combat options, while the action all takes place on the top screen. And this is just the start

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Yes I do know that, but so can be my mp3 player, or my sony Clie's battery life.

And you're happy with this? My mobile phone has dire battery life, and it's annoying the hell out of me. If it wasn't a 21st birthday gift, I would probably have looked at replacing it by now!

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Yes there is more to graphics, there is game play as well, but tell me would if you have the ablity to use better graphics dont you ? an example would be 2 mods for BC, one is of lesser graphics but use the same HP, you can run both do you not pic the one with better graphics.

But it's really not analogous, is it? You are unlikely to get any direct ports between PSP and DS, because of the uniqueness of the system.

Consider instead, you can either have one BC with one screen, and prettier ships. Apart from that, it's just like conventional BC. Alternatively, you have a BC with less pretty ships, but two screens so that you can give orders to your crew by touching the one screen, while fighting your battles on the other screen. Which one would you choose now?

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And to add one more thing a good 50% of the new released games for Advanced happen to be older released polished off SNES games.

Nothing wrong with that - a lot of those old games were great, and most people don't have a SNES anymore. And with the DS, they can start porting N64 titles... The main reason I intend to buy one is so I can play Mario 64 (I never had an N64). Don't underestimate the power of nostalgia on the over-20's market

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This is what I have to say about PSP (the newest one): http://comic.gamedev.net/past.asp?comicid=26

This is what I have to say about XBox: If I ever need a good (and I have money burning a hole in my pocket) heating element, I'll buy one.

This is what I have to say about DS: Don't press to hard! Don't press to hard!

This is what I have to say about GameCube: Hey! It doesn't fit in my cabinet like the other consoles do! And wait, Don't tell me that default openGL lighting is better!

Yes. Those are biased oppions by me.

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Sim Rex wrote:

I think the wifi and fun wifi programs you get with it will possibly pull in a slightly older crowd, but yes, I do agree that Nintendo's image is a little tarnished at the moment because everyone saw the Gamecube as kiddy. Still, the GBA SP has been selling *very* well!

Mostly due to the lower price of the GBA now, also its not so much of how the gamecube looks, its the games as well, not many games for the cube that are directed for "mature" gamers. Also the idea of the wifi really was to make it so you did not need a link cable like before.

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I can see the extra screen becoming almost like the scroll wheel on the mouse over time - something that you didn't even realise you wanted until you had it, and then you wouldn't want to give it up.. But maybe that's just me. I think that at the moment, we really haven't seen them use the dual screen thing to its full advantage, because we're only in the first wave of development for the system. And yes, most games are just sticking a map in that screen. But some aren't - I direct you towards Spiderman 2 by Vicarious Visions... They are using the touch screen to control Spiderman's combat options, while the action all takes place on the top screen. And this is just the start

Ok ok I can see your point there, but personally I just find it useless untill given a good application of the duel screen thats my stance.

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And you're happy with this? My mobile phone has dire battery life, and it's annoying the hell out of me. If it wasn't a 21st birthday gift, I would probably have looked at replacing it by now!

Well it doesnt bug me, I mean I get proper lithum batteries for my MP3 player and it'll last me when I need it too, and my Clie, well I get say maybe a good day's use outa it, thats like typing for 4 classes and or games inbetween or during so it works for me, I dont mind recharging when I get home, and if it gets low I use low power mode

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But it's really not analogous, is it? You are unlikely to get any direct ports between PSP and DS, because of the uniqueness of the system. Consider instead, you can either have one BC with one screen, and prettier ships. Apart from that, it's just like conventional BC. Alternatively, you have a BC with less pretty ships, but two screens so that you can give orders to your crew by touching the one screen, while fighting your battles on the other screen. Which one would you choose now?

Well you could get a direct port, I mean say for example a game that is doing the game + map function on the DS, can make an easy port to the PSP. And yes while your example of BC is quite good, I'd find it somewhat annoying that I would be busy looking at a different screen to tell my crew to do something in midest of battle, but if you use the one screen set up as it is you can do the same simple thing of find a moment during the battle to do your adjustments, I see your point its a nice feature I'll give you that.

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Nothing wrong with that - a lot of those old games were great, and most people don't have a SNES anymore. And with the DS, they can start porting N64 titles... The main reason I intend to buy one is so I can play Mario 64 (I never had an N64). Don't underestimate the power of nostalgia on the over-20's market

Oh I agree there is nothing wrong, but I find it entierly stupid that a good chuck of there games happens to be ported over from a previous system. Like yes ok if all you did was say take the Mario games cause everyone loves the mario games then hey it wouldnt be so bad, but many of the games were ported over.

You can even look at it like this Gameboy was out for how long the orginal, like it dominated the market for like a good decade. Game Gear which was vastly better with graphics and colour lost out to Nintendo because the better games were on Gameboy. Now've gone threw too many handhelds in too short a time. Then not only that but they dont have really MUST own games, I rather go to the PSP which will offer amazing titles for it.

Classic Nintendo rocked, but I think Nintendo's time has come and they must pass over the tourch, go thr route of Atari and start devloping games instead.

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Can you tell the difference between the games played on the XBOX and the ones played on the PS2 ? If they're so close graphically, then the crown must go to the one that has more and better games. I believe it's the PS2.

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