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 Ok, here are the current proposals. Right now we are mainly looking at two options..
 
 
1) SMF with a conversion of the current post tables to SMF format so they can be imported. A similar theme would be used.
 
 
2) fresh and current phpBB install with the same theme, but none of the mods. It would be a vanilla install.
 
 
The other option is to go with another forum type, but the top two are preferred. Let me know what you think.
 
 
I will need someone to assist wth setting up a test forum somewhere so we can test the clean build. 
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          Armondikov 
         
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 May be worth changing to SMF. Php is soooooo two years ago. 
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          RCgothic 
         
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 I'll vote SMF as well. 
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          Raven Night 
         
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 Ok. Just keep in mind, might be difficult to convert the tables in the database to SMF...otherwise we would lose all of the prior posts. 
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          Armondikov 
         
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 Not a massive loss, although some of the old mod threads are good. I'd like some of the RPG stuff saved but I've backed that thread into a word file anyway. 
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 Although, some mods that were only released in threads here would be lost if you delete these forums and create a new one. 
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          RCgothic 
         
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 I don't think there's any reason to delete these forums. Lock them down to posting and new registrations and keep them online as a public archive. 
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          Glempius 
         
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 SMF is awfully shiny
 
 
As for transfering posts over, it's not exactly a serious problem. I like RC's idea and failing that there's always cut and paste :p 
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          Armondikov 
         
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 Depending on whether it's worth keeping them, it'll still cost to host and have bandwidth dedicated to it, but if we were to divert to a new forum and disable user account creation and posting (to cement the site as "archives"), surely the people bhind the advertisement revenue that helps pay for it would be a bit miffed. (Noting that I have never dealt with this side or any form of hosting, plus, I'm just assuming we'd deactivate the forums. I'm just guessing). 
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 Well, I want to keep the current posts and the user base, save the bots and zero posters. If we switch over to SMF, it would have to be a solid post transfer to the new forum. 
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 I'm not well versed with board nomenclatures.  So, what is SMF? 
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 SMF = Simple Machines Forum .  BCS:TNG uses it. 
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 It seems that alot of people like SMF....I have to do a bit more research, but I am leaning in that direction. 
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 If you need any help regarding SMF, just ask. I'm pretty much maintaining the BCS's SMF board. It's quite cool and safe. 
 
 
We've had a lot of hits last month (stats show over 1 000 000 hits) and no problems. 
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 Excuse the n00bishness (i've never been able to   shake it all off)
 
 
But do we need to change the boards in such a drastic manner? 
 
 
What would the possible benefits and possible downsides be? 
 
 
And what could go wrong (thinking worst case scenario lads)
 
 
Just my 2 pence. 
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You tend to be quiet around others, unless you're inspired by your next big idea.
 
 
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  	  | captain_obvious wrote: | 	 		  Excuse the n00bishness (i've never been able to   shake it all off)
 
 
But do we need to change the boards in such a drastic manner? 
 
 
What would the possible benefits and possible downsides be? 
 
 
And what could go wrong (thinking worst case scenario lads)
 
 
Just my 2 pence. | 	  
 
 
Well, the main benefit would be better security, and the lack of bugs.
 
 
The site woudl still be essentially the same. 
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We should thank SOE for providing us with an example of how NOT to manage an online game.
 
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 ah, ok.  well, you're the one running the show mate, so it's up to you.  But to be honest as long as the site runs quickly enough and is reliable I couldn't really give a toss.  
 
 
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Your mind is an incubator for good ideas, it just takes a while for them to develop.
 
But when you think of something, watch out!
 
Your thoughts tend to be huge, and they come on quickly -  like an explosion.
 
You tend to be quiet around others, unless you're inspired by your next big idea.
 
 
What Pattern Is Your Brain?
 
 
http://www.blogthings.com/whatpatternisyourbrainquiz/
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 Deport Pedro.
 
 
I already voted SMF, IIRC. 
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          RCgothic 
         
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 Also, not having to log in every time you visit is a bonus of a re-install. 
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          RhVaurek 
         
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 I vote for SMF myself it seems to be rather good and popular. 
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          Raven Night 
         
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 Yea, im leaning in the SMF direction. Just have to make sure the port is safe. I want all the original posts. Im discussing it now with the SMF guys. 
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 the main thing is SMF is more secure and stable.some of the threads are good , but I don't mind a restart.   
 
it gets my vote 
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 semi related... I had a phpBB board for a Role play and recently switched to a SMF board (we had some security issues with the phpBB and we had no issues with it. So based on the expirence I had I would say SMF is the way to go 
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          Lord_MalaK 
         
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 Any way that saves the old posts and files is fine with me. 
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 We'd probably clean up the forum, deleting some topic which aren't useful; it'd only use up space. I haven't heard from Raven what his strategy will be, though.
 
 
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 This maybe late but if I were you I would stick to phpBB or maybe get the fully modded version which has better security features.I would maybe add a couple of themes though.
 
 
There are certian thingsSMF can't do.These boards maybe pain to update but one it is done it is done.
 
 
I am just glad you haven't thought of vb. 
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